he served in the justice department, and was a counsel to then-senator joe biden. jay johnson was general counsel for the defense department until last year. that gave him a legal overview of everything the u.s. military and defense department was doing, a lot of which we will discuss here. he was a general counsel for the air force and assistant u.s. attorney, hired in new york by rudy giuliani, back in the day. jane harman needs no introduction to anybody here. she is the executive director of the woodrow wilson center. served how many terms in congress? nine terms in congress as ranking member on the house intelligence committee for many years, and then the homeland security committee. anthony romero is the executive director of the aclu, and has been a consistent voice for civil liberties on all the issues we are going to talk about. let us start right off with the nsa program. i know some of it was covered in the previous panel, but i want to get into, with raj, how it actually works. i am talking about the metadata program, which was probably the biggest disc